Thursday, June 8. 2006
A natural cure for diabetes
I’m now reading the book by Kevin Trudeau Natural Cures "They" Don't Want You To Know About
So now I come across an article in the BBC titled Chinese remedy ‘treats diabetes’. Here’s what the second heading states: “A gardenia fruit extract used in Chinese medicine for centuries to treat adult onset diabetes is effective, scientists have found.”
Well first of all, it’s not the scientists that found it but the Chinese. The scientists only verified and acknowledged this in a laboratory experiment. But what made me really wonder are these lines:
“The researchers said their findings may lead to the development of new drugs, which would offer a significant advance as there is currently no available therapy for diabetes which targets the underlying causes of disease in insulin-producing cells.”
and a care advisor’s at Diabetes UK advice:
“For the 1.8 million people diagnosed with Type 2 diabetes, we recommend a healthy, balanced diet and physical activity.”
And I think: What the hell? Why won’t you advise the people to go a chinese medicine doctor and ask them to be treated with that extract and other treatments that this medicine has to offer? Why do we need to wait for a drug to be developed out of the same plant or what’s worse, from a synthetic process? Diet and physical activity are great. But if there’s an existing remedy (and it’s not a drug) why shouldn’t people use it?
Just some food for thought.
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I beg to differ, no one has me what to think. I reviewed the available information about this guy that seemed to be from credible sources and formed my own opinion. Which, if you have read my other comments on this topic, is what I encourage others to do. I don't need to read his book to disapprove of his activities, methods and apparent motivations. If I was going to object to the -content- of his book, that would be another story, but that isn't the case. He didn't come up with the information in the book by himself, he has merely packaged and distributed it.
Let me ask, how do you know that Trudeau is a "good person"? Do you know him personally? Or have you, like myself, made your own judgment about his character based on the information available to you? In this case, I would venture to say that I probably have a more objective and realistic opinion about him than you, since I'm not basing my judgment on the image that he himself tries to project, but on facts about his past behavior and activities.
I not only believe there are better natural alternatives to most meds, Im sure of it. I even think that with proper training most people could use their own minds to alieviate or lessen the effects of lots of things. But them drug company people all have kids to send to college, so there you go.
Xochi -- By the same token, it is just as likely that you are on Kevin Trudeau's payroll to try and downplay criticism of him. Whether that is true or not, I don't really care. FYI, I'm a self-employed web developer, not a drug company and/or government stooge.
If you had actually read anything that I've written here, you'd be aware that I do not at any time knock alternative treatments. Nor do I base my mistrust of Kevin Trudeau on a single piece of his history, such as the 2 year jail term, but on his activities as a whole. However, I'm not going to reiterate the points I already tried at length to make in this thread.
I'm not asking anyone to believe me on this issue, just to go look at the info out there about him and make up their own minds. My reason for posting here, other than expressing my personal opinions, is to make others aware that controversy about Kevin Trudeau's motives and methods does exist, and to encourage them to look at any information they come across, regardless of the source or the subject, with a critical eye.
I dislike seeing people taken advantage of because they are gullible, uninformed and/or uneducated, but if you want to give your money to a con artist, that's certainly your perogative. I hope you get your money's worth.
Kevin Trudeau is indeed opening the eyes of many with his book, but i agree with MK, the information has been out there for centuries. Everything Kevin wrote about is true, but he doesnt tell you any "secrets".
I read the entire book and when he gets to what the exact component is that heals, he stops, he gives the educated consumer much info on the fact that there are alternative treatments and to seek them out, which is a great service in itself, but there are no cures so to speak.
And David Williams, Dr Whitaker, Dr. Sinatra etc. are all fabulous Dr.s doing fabulous research, but think about it, those pamphlets and brochures you get from those wonderful alternative Dr.s all look the same , they all state "we found the simplest cure for clogged arteries..." or we found that this one 25 cent mineral can CURE cancer, but then they charge you $150 for the 90 capsule bottle. They all work for a company in Virginia that is preying on people who are seeking alternatives. These doctors are a great source, but why dont they just say, " Take Zinc to help with cancer" or Magnesium for depression" etc. for instance, we live in a world where viruses are killing people everywhere, did you know that Apple Cider Vinegar KILLS 80% of the viruses in the world? and all you need to do is put it in your diet everyday. Or that Tea Tree Oil Kills on contact? That Hydrogen Peroxide and vitamin C injected into cancerous tumors disintegrates the tumor? That something as simple as whipping Flaxseed oil with cottage cheese makes it 100% more absorbable and usable by your body? Kevin didnt tell you any of these pennies on the dollar cures. Kevin did write a book on opening the eyes of the public, but he exploited information that was reeadily available with just a small bit of effort. He is raking in money , and good for him, I could do the same thing, but if youve ever seen someone with cancer, or a debilitating disease and helped them cure themselves from natural remedies, youll agree there is so much more fulfillment in knowing you helped them without earning a billion dollars selling a "tell all but not really book". Now if you want to read a worthy book, read Lorraine Days book on cancer, or "Cure Your Cancer" by a wonderful man named Bill henderson, who is spending his life educating people for free with a fabulous newsletter. Mike Adams of newstarget.com is a great resource as well, and he advocates Kevin Trudeau, but he also gives real FREE information because he sincerely lives to help others. Theres a big difference.
God Bless you all for your views and keep on educating yourselves, help others and give selflessly.
Carmella
http://www.drdavidwilliams.com/. I get a few different newsletters, but his is my favorite and it's called "Alternatives".
What I do feel very convinced of after doing a considerable amount of research is this: regardless of whether it is truth, fact or a combination of both that is coming out of Kevin Trudeau's mouth, his main goal is NOT activism and helping other people, it is putting as much money in his pocket as he can. His past activities prove that he is willing to sell just about anything he can create a good sales pitch for. He has been willing to lie, cheat and steal to line his pockets and appears to have no sense of ethics whatsoever. Apparently those two years in prison only had a marginal effect on him.
Chris, you recommend that people educate themselves. I couldn't agree more. You should start by educating yourself about Kevin Trudeau's history of activities. If you have already done so and are still willing to trust this person enough to hand over your money to him, that's a shame but it's not illegal. As an intelligent and educated person, ow do you feel about the fact that the information he sells to people is already freely available from many other sources? If he really just wants to help people, why didn't he put all the information he has in his book instead of making people go to his website and give him even more money to obtain these "secrets"? Even if Kevin Trudeau was actually a completely honest, ethical and credible person instead of a very sophisticated con man, why would you trust your health to the advice of someone with no medical or scientific training or experience, someone who has never supplied any substantial evidence to back up his claims? Personally, I don't think it's wise to base decisions upon anecdotal evidence, and if you're willing to do so it certainly goes against your assertation that people should educate themselves.
Slappy, thank you for your rational and well articulated comments in this discussion. I wish that more people would exercise their ability to think critically. Even highly intelligent people can be fooled by a good con artist!
As the magicians' saying goes... "deception requires cooperation".
In my very first post, I said that Trudeau was "using people's well-placed distrust of pharmaceutical companies". In case you're not clear on the concept, "well-placed distrust" means that I believe that their distrust is appropriate.
In another post, I state, "I personally believe there may well be some truth to the drug company conspiracy theory." How exactly do you interpret that as me putting forth that "the big Pharms intentions are to help people"? I said nothing of the sort; just the opposite, in fact.
Yes, the Pharms have people out there discrediting alternatives to meds, the big 3 car companies actively seek out & stifle any & all new ideas for alternative fuels or cleaner & cheaper running engines. Why ? Because business is business. The Pharms & car companies are in business to make money for their respective stockholders. Not to make your or my life any easier.It just happens that the business they are in is meds. But its still a business, not a charity. Is there a huge conspiricy going on ? I doubt it, but you just never know. Are alternatve meds effictive & safe ? I dont know. But I do know they will never be mainstreamed as long as people like Trudeau are involved.
Slappy Da Clown
Doctors receive free trips etc to learn how to promote these drugs.
The drug companies peddle these drugs to children via football stars like "the Bus" and crazy comments/quizzes that would lead anyone to think they have ADD.
Trudeau has, if nothing else, shouted a wake up call to Americans about what is going on.
Is he a convicted felon? - yep. However, he doesn't have to go to sleep at night knowing he prescribed a death drug - Paxil, Zoloft etc to a child - knowing that it can cause suicide.
Wake up people - ADD didn't exist a few years ago - now it's a household word - the drug companies created a home run myth and people bought into it.
The gentleman who commented he was diabetic and was on meds - okay - I get your situation. But let's look at the millions of kids who are placed on Paxil or Zoloft or whatever. Let's look at an adult who racks up credit card debt, goes to her doctor and states she's "depressed". Without any questions - a prescription for Zoloft is handed out. To my knowledge - Taking Zoloft does not erase credit card debt.................................
There has to be a line drawn in the insanity of handing out prescription drugs without a thought.
This is my opinion - you're entitled to yours.
ContrarianLuddite
http://www.infomercialwatch.org/tran/trudeau.shtml
Alternative medicine and medical quackery?
www.quackwatch.org
Snake-oil is all around us.
The 'medicine' is fake but the money the snake-oil salesmen collect is not. Think about it.